tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post3247088370864231594..comments2023-04-28T03:47:47.508-07:00Comments on Ms. Leclaire's 4th Hour Honors American Lit Blog: Live Blogging: "The Yellow Wallpaper"Kristin Lhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15076857976818237278noreply@blogger.comBlogger209125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-72865426543980314152008-02-28T12:45:00.000-08:002008-02-28T12:45:00.000-08:00Tana,You agreed with Julia's point and asked that ...Tana,<BR/>You agreed with Julia's point and asked that there was a chance if John was the one with the problem and not the lady. I think that maybe John is the one with the problem because when we researched hysteria online it said that sometimes men would just diagnose their wifes with it because they were annoyed with them or something. I have a feeling that John was just annoyed with her or had something against her and told her she was sick.endsleyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113332404329465567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-65765798452540726822008-02-28T12:42:00.000-08:002008-02-28T12:42:00.000-08:00Hannah,I do believe that she is suggesting that th...Hannah,<BR/>I do believe that she is suggesting that the Rest Cure is not a good treatment but what is she saying would be better?endsleyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113332404329465567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-49712285624077656192008-02-28T12:39:00.000-08:002008-02-28T12:39:00.000-08:00Brian,I didn't hear about your research but that d...Brian,<BR/>I didn't hear about your research but that does sound really interesting! I dont understand how this would keep people from going crazy. In my opinion this piece would make you go crazy. Because it would make me look at wallpaper or walls and see if i could find anything in them. You might obsess over that.endsleyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113332404329465567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-15837502990862692382008-02-28T12:34:00.000-08:002008-02-28T12:34:00.000-08:00jordanc,Yes i agree that the "woman" behind the wa...jordanc,<BR/>Yes i agree that the "woman" behind the wallpaps is her doppleganger because a doppleganger is like the "evil twin" of a person. I find that the "woman in the wallpaper is a doppleganger because she is antagonizng her and making her crazy.endsleyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113332404329465567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-9441204968791990312008-02-28T12:24:00.000-08:002008-02-28T12:24:00.000-08:00Jimmy-Just like chelsea said I believe that it is ...Jimmy-Just like chelsea said I believe that it is a state of mind. Because since she did change her mind I dont think that the wallpaper was repulsive.endsleyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113332404329465567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-17061854212807988602008-02-21T12:57:00.001-08:002008-02-21T12:57:00.001-08:00Just kidding!Just kidding!juliabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318928249237491611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-73083007541903450322008-02-21T12:57:00.000-08:002008-02-21T12:57:00.000-08:00Hey Sixth Hour! Did anyone notice that the author ...Hey Sixth Hour! <BR/><BR/>Did anyone notice that the author frequently describes the light and shadows in the novel, especially in Chapter 2 and 3. <BR/><BR/>Your thoughts?juliabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318928249237491611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-21189843567999868792008-02-21T10:33:00.003-08:002008-02-21T10:33:00.003-08:00Nathan-I don't think that Mr. P represents men as ...Nathan-<BR/>I don't think that Mr. P represents men as a whole, but I think you bring up a good point. I think that by having both Mr. P and Robert, who is generally a good person, she may be trying to say something about the balance of good and evil.DeclanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686922365328954928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-46350252053743217672008-02-21T10:33:00.002-08:002008-02-21T10:33:00.002-08:00jimmy-i'm not seeing any love at the present tim...jimmy-i'm not seeing any love at the present time. i think there used to be when they first met, but it died off a long time ago and now theyre stuck in a loveless marriagematthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202637245382330386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-77507486888684281372008-02-21T10:33:00.001-08:002008-02-21T10:33:00.001-08:00Does anyone else see the dichotomy of love vs. lus...Does anyone else see the dichotomy of love vs. lust?jordanchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02139806726106703981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-63438066390094264052008-02-21T10:33:00.000-08:002008-02-21T10:33:00.000-08:00I think that it is to early to determine if there ...I think that it is to early to determine if there is love because love may blossom or may not. And the men might change and they might not.Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02639311961589381242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-25346431608170163182008-02-21T10:32:00.000-08:002008-02-21T10:32:00.000-08:00Nate- I agree with Connor, there are two different...Nate- I agree with Connor, there are two different male figures in this book that appear to be different, so I guess we'll have to wait to exactly what Mr. P represents.zachfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10111708614895921712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-68339048787327014412008-02-21T10:31:00.000-08:002008-02-21T10:31:00.000-08:00Going off what the inner circle is talking about.....Going off what the inner circle is talking about... Do you think that love is present in this story in any releationship?jimmym92https://www.blogger.com/profile/15865742738352016288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-23426661871479890902008-02-21T10:30:00.003-08:002008-02-21T10:30:00.003-08:00I agree with Brian. I think that this book is abou...I agree with Brian. I think that this book is about a time period that had its rules and conformities, and how people started to change their ways of thinking and their lifestyles according to new found emotions.Laurabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02971651189063644815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-73844885474543341782008-02-21T10:30:00.002-08:002008-02-21T10:30:00.002-08:00I do not think that its fair for her to have to do...I do not think that its fair for her to have to do everything. I understand that it is the time period but I do not think that it is her job to do everthing and work everything out.Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02639311961589381242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-86595993689966775582008-02-21T10:30:00.001-08:002008-02-21T10:30:00.001-08:00Nathan, I think that it is too early in the novel ...Nathan, I think that it is too early in the novel to really know what form of "evil" Mr. P represents and if it is just married men, or all men, and so on.kaylafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05742328512066790347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-42113502001387580322008-02-21T10:30:00.000-08:002008-02-21T10:30:00.000-08:00Nathan- I don' think that Mr. P is supposed to rep...Nathan- I don' think that Mr. P is supposed to represent all males in this story. As we see in Robert, he actually cares about what Mrs. P has to say, unlike her husband. So Robert is, so far, an okay person. <BR/><BR/>Have we seen any signs of evil in Robert so far?Connor_Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13281344939433838908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-60446140718612145662008-02-21T10:29:00.001-08:002008-02-21T10:29:00.001-08:00Brian I agree. Was this just something normal back...Brian I agree. Was this just something normal back then, for women to be friends with other males? I think not! Why did her husband not realize this and start caring more? It is easy to see that an affair might be coming into play soon, but I wonder why the author makes it so blatantly obvious? Why does Chopin display the woman as a figure needed to be seen and heard and loved so much that she is driven into the arms of another man? IF this is a feminist text, then wouldn't she what to show that women are strong, and able to think and survive with just themselves?ShannonHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02457519549816058526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-20038864916513521242008-02-21T10:29:00.000-08:002008-02-21T10:29:00.000-08:00Kayla-I don't think he's necessarily unattentive, ...Kayla-<BR/>I don't think he's necessarily unattentive, but I also don't think that he is just ignoring her pain. I think he's mostly just too self absorbed to really care about much else.DeclanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686922365328954928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-17115894697943412562008-02-21T10:28:00.000-08:002008-02-21T10:28:00.000-08:00Jordan- I was listening to the inner circle and so...Jordan- I was listening to the inner circle and someone Hannah said that maybe Mrs. P just knows her children better than her husband, and that's why she gives them their space. I think it makes him nervous that she is not filling the typical stereotype for a mother. I think the only things he knows about motherhood are from what he sees in how other women treat their children.KariBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06382248269753334325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-48175049997826417492008-02-21T10:27:00.005-08:002008-02-21T10:27:00.005-08:00I agree that Mr. P is supposed to be viewed as "ev...I agree that Mr. P is supposed to be viewed as "evil," but do you think that he is supposed to symbolize males as a whole?nathanmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12935549164723351220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-80946866309884472472008-02-21T10:27:00.004-08:002008-02-21T10:27:00.004-08:00Jordan, I think Mrs. Pontelliere does care for her...Jordan, I think Mrs. Pontelliere does care for her children in muchthe same way our mothers care for us today. However, if we consider the time period that the book takes place in, a time when woman were essentially in charge of caring for the children, cooking, and cleaning, to Mr. Pontelliere it seems as though she isn't caring for the children.brianghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12292274922624258080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-90851258753288036352008-02-21T10:27:00.003-08:002008-02-21T10:27:00.003-08:00Jordan- I think that Mr P cared for the kids more ...Jordan- I think that Mr P cared for the kids more than Mrs.P does. For example, when he thinks the kid has a fever, she just ignores it and doesn't seem to care.TyChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10173738696134217034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-62032419418147438482008-02-21T10:27:00.002-08:002008-02-21T10:27:00.002-08:00What does everyone think that the smoking symboliz...What does everyone think that the smoking symbolizes if anything, and if so what might this have to do with later in the novel?Dan Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02455729265326116738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4118069900743999235.post-37231448320277340922008-02-21T10:27:00.001-08:002008-02-21T10:27:00.001-08:00I agree with brian, i think that there is nothing ...I agree with brian, i think that there is nothing evil yet, but the stage is deffinatley set for the men to do something terribly evil. when they have this much power over the women, i think its kind of inevitablematthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202637245382330386noreply@blogger.com